So if VW had dieselgate, will this new CARB lawsuit become Oilgate?

[pkhoury]

Apparently, California is suing petroleum companies, alleging they knew about the dangers of petroleum consumption for many decades.
Shell claimed it would be foolish to start cutting production of oil now, but I wonder if this is what California wants. I didn't think the infrastructure was fully there for 100% EV usage.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/16/us/california-lawsuit-oil-companies/index.html

 

[Lightflyer1]

The oil companies should just cut them off right now. Electric too as they cause wildfires. I am surprised more stores haven't closed due to crime. I guess with their tax base leaving they need another way to take money.

 

[turbodieseldyke]

The oil companies should just cut them off right now.

They should hire a PMC.

 

[pkhoury]

They should hire a PMC.

What's a PMC?

 

[turbodieseldyke]

Professional Media Consultant. There may be others fitting the acronym.

 

[Lightflyer1]

You mean like the Bud Lite people? They aren't necessarily a gold ring either. If you stop doing stupid stuff you don't need one.

 

[turbobrick240]

Should be interesting to see how successful these lawsuits are. The oil and gas companies have much deeper pockets and greater influence than big tobacco did when they faced similar litigation.

https://www-cnbc-com.cdn.ampproject...8873255&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

 

[pkhoury]

Should be interesting to see how successful these lawsuits are. The oil and gas companies have much deeper pockets and greater influence than big tobacco did when they faced similar litigation.

https://www-cnbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/09/18/california-sues-chevron-exxon-oil-giants-on-climate-change-deception.html?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16950748873255&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/09/18/california-sues-chevron-exxon-oil-giants-on-climate-change-deception.html#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16950748873255&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

I was thinking the same. Plus, California has that car culture thing - hotrods, fast cars, and an overdependence on gasoline. From my time living there, California hates diesels. In fact, I thought they were bad from the cultural brainwashing as well, until I first learned of TDIs in the mid-2000s (and couldn't buy one until 2010, thanks to CARB).

The somewhat ironic part is that bad or not for the environment, there really weren't viable alternatives in the 60s-90s. I mean, there was GM's EV1 and Toyota's RAV4 EV, but those are more comparable, range wise, to a Nissan Leaf.

 

[gearheadgrrrl]

Even if California wins, our TDIs will be rusted away before California or the oil companies run out of appeals.